Hatred (Polish game)

[Laethaka]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrX7G-1xPLs

yuck

[Regolyth]

Seriously? That's just ridiculous. I can't believe someone thought this was a good idea. I can believe less that someone is actually publishing it. This is bad for the gaming community, which has enough heat on it already, and horrible for the human race. Thanks jerks.

Someone put in the comments what I was thinking.

This game can only do more harm than good. This game is a disgrace and is only going to give the media more fuel to their raging fire of "video games make kids violent". This is a horrible idea and I see this ending terribly. If you know what's best for the industry, abort this project. I see on your website you label this game as a "propaganda tool". Well you'll get your wish, but you won't like the results. I think I speak for many (though certainly NOT all) of the members of the gaming community when I say this: Think about the ramifications this is going to have on the gaming community and the ideas that people have on of it in general. I know you're going to gloss over this as another critic, but if you follow through with this, you are going to regret it. The media and governments apart will tear you and the industry to shreads.

Again, you're missing my point. I don't care if video games are violent or not. I love violent video games. The problem is, lawmakers ARE going to try and stop this. "You trying to stop this group from making this game is just like lawmakers trying to stop them." You said this, and you're right. But what I'm saying is that this is going to give lawmakers ammunition to make such laws. And, just how the government usually works lately, nobody is going to be able to change that. This could cause the permanent censorship of future games. Read my other comments in this post if you still don't know what I mean. It's getting a little exhausting repeating myself.

[Morreion]

Yep. There's nothing like a hobby being very suspect and the majority of people (and politicians) judging that hobby by the worst example possible, while 99% of the rest of the hobby is fine. This is true of other things in life when the majority of people just don't 'get' something. It's wise not to antagonize ignorance.

The Video Game Morality Questions Raised By Mass Murder Simulator, 'Hatred' (Forbes)

...Hatred has the right to exist, but it shouldn’t, and its gory debut and eventual release will only do nothing but give video games an unnecessary black eye.

[Laethaka]

I have difficulty explaining why I love hateful black metal/noise music/some horror movies like Alien, but this is unbearable.

I think it's because this _participation_ in the atrocity encourages a kind of feedback for the negativity. People who say "it's just a game" are full of shit- that's like saying watching TV is just staring at furniture. It's evocative and expressive.

So my problem with it is I'll bet anything that a poor slob playing this thing feels mainly guilty and ashamed and MORE lonely and self-loathing afterwards, which makes him more pissed off and want to play it more. Whereas most negative art isn't participatory- I partake and feel like my bad juju has been transferred to or communed with _someone else_ and thereby cleansed. Maybe a failure of gaming as a medium.

[Morreion]

That's probably a lot of it- gaming is a participatory medium, not just something you look at.